.TS / .M2TS and external .SRT subtitles

[nycaleksey]

Hi,

Was anyone able to see external .SRT subtitles with .TS / .M2TS files? I made an HDDVD rip, went through OCRing .sup into .srt, named .srt exactly the same as .M2TS and still can't see them during playback. Can anyone confirm atht external .SRT subtitles work with .TS / .M2TS ? I have no problems using these subtitles with MKV. Thank you.

[kurt]

jep, external subs are working with (m2)ts and mkv (I am not sure about avi or mp4).

open the srt file in notepad and save it new with ANSI code. then it should work. Also select in PCH settings your subtitle language and the srt will be loaded automatically when naming is right....

[nycaleksey]

(04-09-2009 05:38 PM)kurt Wrote:  open the srt file in notepad and save it new with ANSI code. then it should work.

Thanks a lot for quick help, turns out I had Unicode srt, my mistake.

[snoopy]

Subs work here with .MKV format but nearly NEVER with .TS or .M2TS format.

I have tried everything, also forcing them to ANSI with NotePad, nothing works.
Put the language to English and subs to English in the settings, nothing.

The PCH-A100 sees the subs, it says 'File' when you push the Subtitle button,
I can switch them on but nothing is shown. Files are named correctly and
contain valid subtitle contence.

[spawn]

Quote:Subs work here with .MKV format but nearly NEVER with .TS or .M2TS format

Sorry - but thats just wrong.

external subs work exactly the same - no matter which filetype the video has. - avi, mkv, ts, mpg, mp4 etc. - doesnt matter.

I cant say what - but you are doing something wrong.

for mkv you can also use internal subs, but for all other its external subs only - and these work regardless of video file type (but not for dvd-structures which use their own internal bitmap subs).

rules are simple
- subtitles has to be turned on in the PCH setup (doesnt matter which language is selected)
- subtitle has to be correctly formatted as ANSI and in correct .srt format
- moviefile and subtitle file has to be named the same - ie. movie.ts/movie.srt or movie.mp4/movie.srt etc.

If you upload an .srt giving you problems to rapidshare we can take a look at it.

And please tell us where you play your media from - internal harddrive, usb harddrive, network share, http server ???
Do you have any other files in the folder other than the movie and the srt sub ?

[snoopy]

I have checked all three points you mentioned above
over and over again. I think the problem is in the .TS files.
They are self recorded from HD Television.

I have one .TS movie which works with .SRT
Let's call this movie A

The second movie (B) doesn't work with .SRT

If I rename the nonworking sub of movie B to
A.SRT then the subtitle which didn't work with
movie B works with movie A. So there is absolutly
nothing wrong with the .SRT's. I work too often with
SRT files in combination with .MKV files to make basic
mistakes.

I think there is some sort of synchronisation problem
with some .TS files and .SRT
So the PCH shows via 'FILE' is sees an .SRT, but neven
shows in contence.

Believe me there is some problem with .TS and .SRT's
and the PCH.

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I will make a very small .TS recording with .SRT
and post the link here !

[spawn]

Quote:They are self recorded from HD Television.

This is the info you did not give us before

self recorded television TS - can contain other types of subtitles, dvb subs or tele text subs - which could potentially interfere with the external subs, if the PCH sees the internal subs in the transport stream. There could be other "issues" with the conformity of the transport stream.

Theres a friendly developer on this forum named Cypheros which for this exact purpose has created a software called TS-doctor designed to repair and clean up digitv transport streams.

You could try to clean up one of your problem .ts's using this software and check if the .srt then work as expected.

http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showth...p?tid=5624

[snoopy]

I am currently running TS Doctor on one of the movies
which didn't work, a HD recording from BBC HD, Kill Bill 1.

I hope that works, will let you know. But MKV can also have
internal subs which you can override when selecting FILE mode.
Or am I wrong ??

Recordings are from a Topfield 7700 HSCI which only
records FAT32 big parts, I have put them together
using NullPacketStripper and TsRemux.
I now have a DreamBox 800 HD, will see if subs work
better with there 'ready to use' subs as the DreamBox
records of EXT3 in one go.

[spawn]

Quote: But MKV can also have
internal subs which you can override when selecting FILE mode.
Or am I wrong ??

Thats correct - mkv can also have internal subs and still external subs can work also.

But the difference is that the structure of an mkv are different from a ts - and the internal srt subs in an mkv are supported by the PCH.
It does not support any kind of internal sub in a ts - this and the fact that these digitv transport stream recordings almost allways have various pmt/pid erros in them - hence the ts-doctor - makes me beleive this can mess up how the PCH works with external .srt for these files.

but lets see what results you get

[snoopy]

I can understand PCH doesn't want to support internal
subs in .TS but I would like the PCH to give priority
to external .SRT subs if they are present.

The threatment with TS Doctor didn't give me any
subs with my own Kill Bill 1 recording. So I guess
there nothing more to do ....

[jj666]

From BBC-HD, you can demux the subtitles with ProjectX only as far as I know (tell it to convert teletext page 888) - it will create a .SRT file. I'm also using DM800HD here.

-jj-

[snoopy]

That means it will remove the subs from the .TS file ???

[jj666]

Yes, the teletext is recorded at the same time as the capture.

Cheers,

-jj-