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Question for the subtitle file users
01-10-2010, 06:33 PM
Post: #1
Question for the subtitle file users
I am trying to get just the forced subtitles in my movies to show up. These are subs of a character speaking another language, but the subs show up in my language.

Is I have looked online on some of the subtitle websites where you can download .srt files for the movies and it looks like they are subs for the whole movie in the language of choice right?

Is they're a place I can download .srt of forced subtitles?

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01-11-2010, 11:51 AM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "forced". The framerate sync came to mind but you mention it shows up in your language and not the foreign?

There are a lot of Subtitle sites on the web, Opensubtitles.org, Subtitlesource.org just to mention two. If you acquire an external subfile you rename it to match the name of the moviefile:
SomeMovie.avi -> SomeMovie.srt and locate the subfile in the same folder as the movie file, next to it.

Make sure the subfile is synched with the movie file you have (PAL, NTSC, 24p etc.), or it will show asynchronous after some seconds/minutes.

Then you make sure you have enabled the NMT Subtitle settings, and when playback starts it should appear already; if not, try pressing the Subtitle button on the remote and toggle subs there.

Hope this helps.

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01-11-2010, 03:53 PM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
Basically what I'm referring to is if I put in a dvd thats in english and and someone speaks spanish the spanish words would be in subtitles in english on the screen.


I'll check put those sites you mentioned to see if it helps.

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01-11-2010, 07:33 PM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
Forced or Burned in subtitles usually refer to subtitles that only are shown, when there is a language spoken that is not the official language of the movie.
Like english for non-english parts only subs.

Most the time if you have sub/idx subs, you can select a different track with subripper or whatever and just extract the forced subs into srt
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01-11-2010, 11:24 PM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
Ah, didn't know this kind is called forced! Learn something new everyday Smile

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01-12-2010, 12:23 AM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
(01-11-2010 07:33 PM)Alterac Wrote:  Forced or Burned in subtitles usually refer to subtitles that only are shown, when there is a language spoken that is not the official language of the movie.
Like english for non-english parts only subs.

Most the time if you have sub/idx subs, you can select a different track with subripper or whatever and just extract the forced subs into srt


Maybe I'll give subripper a shot and see how it works.

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01-12-2010, 03:46 AM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
Sorry, I meant SubReSync Big Grin

Also if you keep the format sub/idx you can edit the idx like so:

To show only forced subs I edit the idx file and set
# ON: displays only forced subtitles, OFF: shows everything
forced subs: ON


I dont think the PCH A-110 likes multiple languages in 1 sub/idx file though. (Especially when the first language is not english)
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01-12-2010, 04:18 AM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
try here
http://subscene.com/

worked great for District 9, Instead of my entire rip having English subtitles only the alien language had subtitles

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01-12-2010, 05:19 AM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
The C-200 has no problem with multi-language sub/idx, but the A series current firmware does not support it.

Such a subtitle file can render the movie non-playable as long as the sub and idx file are in the same folder.

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01-12-2010, 06:26 AM (This post was last modified: 01-12-2010 06:30 AM by BORIStheBLADE.)
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
(01-12-2010 04:18 AM)Specter Wrote:  try here
http://subscene.com/

worked great for District 9, Instead of my entire rip having English subtitles only the alien language had subtitles

Were they labeled "forced subs" when you downloaded them?

Heres an example. Star wars ep 1 phantom menace has a part in chapter 14 that has forced subs.
How do I know which one it is?

http://subscene.com/star-wars-episode-i-...-8453.aspx

Just found this. Im going to give it a try and see.

http://subscene.com/english/star-wars-ep...16670.aspx

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01-12-2010, 01:20 PM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
Yea thas the same problem i ran into, i couldnt tell the difference unless i carefully read the filename. i went through 3 files before i found the one i wanted. Same thing with Defiance, but i got the right one on the second try.

I think the trick is finding the "english parts only" files Undecided

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01-12-2010, 04:40 PM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
Cool, when I get home I'll try out the file.

Do the PCH's play them without turning on subtitles or do you still need to turn them on?

How come this got moved? I have a A-100 and it is more for all PCH's.

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01-12-2010, 05:12 PM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
Subtitle performance between the 100 and 200 series players is signifcantly different.

Most people in the thread are talking about their C-200 expereicne of subtitles.

The A100 can only cope with sub/idx subtitles that have only one language, so you'll need to remove languages if there are more than one int he sub/idx files. they can have as many as 15 or so languages in them.

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01-12-2010, 07:26 PM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
Currently all my Subs are SRT files in 1 language, most of them are muxed into MKV containers, a with few external SRT files for MP4 files. All extra subs i remove using MKVmerge.

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01-13-2010, 05:18 AM
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RE: Question for the subtitle file users
Ok ... I ran my test.

Reripped two different video files to test with. I ripped a .ISO with no subtitles and then ripped with MakeMKV to a file with no subtitles too.

Put both of them in separate folders on the internal HD with the subtitle file named the same as the video.

The .ISO didn't play the subtitle and the makeMKV file played the forced sub the way I wanted.

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