Multiple songs in Music Jukebox (Release 8.1) song lists

[schwrtz]

Hi,

I bought a C-200 last week, and installed Music Jukebox Release 8.1 a few days ago. Hope this is the correct place to place a question about it. The problem I am facing is that for most of the cd's I put on the hard disk, the songs appear twice in the list of songs that belong to a certain cd. I ripped my cd collection with Itunes on a MacBook, and uploaded these via ftp to the C-200 harddisk. These songs are mp3's.

These songs are typically listed as
_01 Hot Head
_02 Ashtray Heart
[...]
Hot Head 03:23
Ashtray Heart 03:25
[...]


The songs with the underscore in the title don't play, don't show the length and don't show any ID3 tags. The mp3 songs play without a problem. The songs are called 01 Hot Head.mp3, 02 Ashtray Heart.mp3, etc

I also uploaded a cd with songs in .wma format, these are listed correctly.

Is this a known bug? Is there something I can do to prevent it? I don't feel like editing all xml files....

Thanks,
André

[wandidj]

(05-21-2010 07:07 PM)schwrtz Wrote:  Hi,

I bought a C-200 last week, and installed Music Jukebox Release 8.1 a few days ago. Hope this is the correct place to place a question about it. The problem I am facing is that for most of the cd's I put on the hard disk, the songs appear twice in the list of songs that belong to a certain cd. I ripped my cd collection with Itunes on a MacBook, and uploaded these via ftp to the C-200 harddisk. These songs are mp3's.

These songs are typically listed as
_01 Hot Head
_02 Ashtray Heart
[...]
Hot Head 03:23
Ashtray Heart 03:25
[...]


The songs with the underscore in the title don't play, don't show the length and don't show any ID3 tags. The mp3 songs play without a problem. The songs are called 01 Hot Head.mp3, 02 Ashtray Heart.mp3, etc

I also uploaded a cd with songs in .wma format, these are listed correctly.

Is this a known bug? Is there something I can do to prevent it? I don't feel like editing all xml files....

Thanks,
André

This is the first I have heard of this. Are both the files starting with the underscore and without MP3 files? Do the files starting with the underscore actually exist on your C-200 or are they 'phantom' songs. If they exist and have a different file extension than the MP3 songs, remove that file extension from the list of music filetypes and regenerate. They should not appear now.

Let me know...

[schwrtz]

(05-21-2010 11:06 PM)wandidj Wrote:  This is the first I have heard of this. Are both the files starting with the underscore and without MP3 files? Do the files starting with the underscore actually exist on your C-200 or are they 'phantom' songs. If they exist and have a different file extension than the MP3 songs, remove that file extension from the list of music filetypes and regenerate. They should not appear now.

Let me know...

Hi wandidj,

Thank you for your reply. I checked the contents of the folders on my Macbook and the corresponding folders on the C-200. There are some differences:

- The C-200 folders have a .bak file for each mp3. I don't know how they got there, there were not on my Macbook, and I think they weren't there after my first First''Generate HTML' command (I did this twice, the second time selected 'Delete all HTML First'). Does the MJB create these?
- a playlist.jsp file.
- the C-200 folders have 2 jpg's, Folder.jpg and Folder_small.jpg. Theses are the album art pictures.

I deleted the .bak files from one folder, ran Generate HTML again (Delete all HTML First selected), but I still got duplicate entries. The back files are called '01 Hot Head.mp3.bak' etc. 'Bak' is not in my Music Extensions list....

I noticed there is a 'create backup file' option if you edit ID3 tags, but I did not do that. I am just testing with a small selection of my cd's, so I could simply delete all files and try again.

The only thing that is suspect for me - as I haven't figured out how MJB works - is the .jsp file. But I guess that was added by MJB?

I'll wait for another suggestion, if not, I will remove all the music and start again from scratch.

Cheers,
André

[wandidj]

(05-23-2010 10:40 PM)schwrtz Wrote:  Hi wandidj,

Thank you for your reply. I checked the contents of the folders on my Macbook and the corresponding folders on the C-200. There are some differences:

- The C-200 folders have a .bak file for each mp3. I don't know how they got there, there were not on my Macbook, and I think they weren't there after my first First''Generate HTML' command (I did this twice, the second time selected 'Delete all HTML First'). Does the MJB create these?

Check the Tags tab in MJB. By default it creates a .bak of any MP3 file it adds cover art images to (Automatically Embed option on the Album Art tab).

(05-23-2010 10:40 PM)schwrtz Wrote:  - a playlist.jsp file.

This is a Popcorn Hour playlist. It is created by Music Jukebox so the C-200 can play an entire album, and for the shuffle feature.

(05-23-2010 10:40 PM)schwrtz Wrote:  - the C-200 folders have 2 jpg's, Folder.jpg and Folder_small.jpg. Theses are the album art pictures.

Correct, these are created by MJB if they don't already exist.

(05-23-2010 10:40 PM)schwrtz Wrote:  I deleted the .bak files from one folder, ran Generate HTML again (Delete all HTML First selected), but I still got duplicate entries. The back files are called '01 Hot Head.mp3.bak' etc. 'Bak' is not in my Music Extensions list....

I noticed there is a 'create backup file' option if you edit ID3 tags, but I did not do that. I am just testing with a small selection of my cd's, so I could simply delete all files and try again.

Most likely the BAK files were created by MJB before it embedded album art...

(05-23-2010 10:40 PM)schwrtz Wrote:  The only thing that is suspect for me - as I haven't figured out how MJB works - is the .jsp file. But I guess that was added by MJB?

This will not cause the songs to appear twice...

(05-23-2010 10:40 PM)schwrtz Wrote:  I'll wait for another suggestion, if not, I will remove all the music and start again from scratch.

Cheers,
André

Turn on Debug mode, Delete All HTML and generate again. A file named Debug.xml will be created in the MJData folder (Start Menu/Music Jukebox/MJData Folder option). This will tell us why we are getting the songs twice...

[schwrtz]

Hi Wandidj,

Ok, I more or less solved the problem. As said, I did this on a MacBook, in combination with a virtual Windows XP environment. From the debugger file, I learned that there were hidden files in the folders on the PCH that I could not see on the Mac. They were visible in XP, though. They are called

._01 HotHead.mp3
._02 Ashtray Heart.mp3
etc.

Thus, the original mp3 file name with a dot and an underscore put before it. They a have a size of 4 - 16 Kb, and are not mp3 files - they can't be played. They were created before I installed MJB, so I did some testing with a new upload. What I found out is, that these files are created if I upload the songs via Samba in Mac OSX (10.5.8). These files are not created if I upload them from within XP.

I didn't know anything about Samba when I bought the PCH, and I did not have a closer look yet, but it must be the combination MAC - Samba - PCH. Creating the hidden files might be an option that can be switched off somewhere, I don't know. A solution could also be to add an option to ignore hidden files in MJB.

I will use XP for future uploads, guess that will solve the problem.

BTW I completely overlooked the MJB documentation that came with the installation file - great work! It will help me fine-tuning the MJB without having to find out things myself, as I was afraid I had to do...

Thanks,
André

[schwrtz]

(05-25-2010 11:29 AM)schwrtz Wrote:  Hi Wandidj,

Ok, I more or less solved the problem.
[ ... ]

To conclude this thread: I found more info on a A.C. Ryan forum (http://www.acryan.com/forums/viewtopic.p...1&t=2595). I copy the contribution that contains the most important information here:

"Ok you can solve this in Mac OSX
by following the procedure below :

1. Open Terminal.
2. Execute this command:

Code:

defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores true

3. Either restart the computer or log out and back in to the user account.

See also :

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1629

but be aware :

http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21373?viewlocale=en_US"

I haven't tried this myself, having the XP alternative available.

Cheers,
André