New Sigma chips SMP8647 .. Give me PCH D-300 : )

[jonthomasdesigns]

How long before we get a new player with the new chips that actually have GBit built in ?

C-200 from day 1 .. but id be happy to upgrade asap

Quote from Hi-Jack:

"The GBIT network combined with the added performance and L2 cache must seriously change the performance as we see it today as the CPU speed runs at 800/400MHz with L2 cache and DDR800 support for memory, compared to SMP8642/43 with no L2 cache and a 667/333MHz combined with DDR667, that should bring quite some performance changes..."

Looks Dreamy

Edit .. Change Chip # : )

[Dave_D]

I'd like to see them offer just the motherboard (like the b-110) so we can upgrade our C200 units using the same chassis

[RedHat]

(06-08-2010 07:11 PM)Dave_D Wrote:  I'd like to see them offer just the motherboard (like the b-110) so we can upgrade our C200 units using the same chassis

Yeah that would be great!

[dh2005]

I hate to pour cold water on anyone's enthusiasm, but the development time necessary to get any new Sigma processor up to a workable standard of functionality is months-to-years. Look at the 8643 in the 200 series; Syabas and Sigma have been working together on it for nine months, and it still needs a lot of work.

Frankly, I'm going nowhere near another Sigma chip until the one I'm using right now works properly. And I'd encourage Syabas to do the same.

[FLaSH]

The 8656 has only 500/333 Mhz, it's the 8646 which has 800/400MHz with L2 cache.

So maybe the SMP8647 (Non-Macrovision Version) is right one for a D-300 ^^

[Scorpys]

http://www.sigmadesigns.com/uploads/docu...640_br.pdf

Code:

MP@L4.0*, HP@L4.0*
• SMPTE 421M (VC-1) MP@HL,
AP@L3
• WMV9 MP@HL
• MPEG-2 MP@HL
• MPEG-4.2 ASP@L5
(up to HD, 1-point GMC)
• AVS Jizhun profile@L2.0, 4.0, 6.0**
• DV (IEC 61834 and SMPTE 314M)
• RMVB v9, v10
• 3D video support
- Generic side-by-side and topbottom
output
- RealD (side-by-side output)
- Sensio (side-by-side output)
* L4.1 for Blu-ray applications
** 20 Mbps for L4.0; 40 Mbps for L6.0
ADVANCED VIDEO PROCESSING
• Motion adaptive deinterlacing
• Deblocking and deringing filters
• Simultaneous HD, CIT-HD, and SD
outputs
• Individual brightness, contrast,
saturation, hue, and colorimetry
correction controls for each video
source and output port
• 12-bit xvYCC processing
• Integrated HDMI v1.3a with CEC,
12-bit deep color, xvYCC

[RedHat]

Jup I know, I was more or less a little bit kidding. Knowing they are working very hard on the current new SDK and thus currrent Sigma in the C-200.

(06-08-2010 07:18 PM)dh2005 Wrote:  I hate to pour cold water on anyone's enthusiasm, but the development time necessary to get any new Sigma processor up to a workable standard of functionality is months-to-years. Look at the 8643 in the 200 series; Syabas and Sigma have been working together on it for nine months, and it still needs a lot of work.

Frankly, I'm going nowhere near another Sigma chip until the one I'm using right now works properly. And I'd encourage Syabas to do the same.

[dh2005]

Let me clear about this - I love what the Sigma 8643 is capable of doing; I just wish the f**king firmware would let me access it.

Nobody doubts that Sigma make great chips. Likewise, nobody doubts that they're bloody useless at supporting them... they're the market-leader, so hey, they can get away with it. I only wish someone with a product of comparable quality and the will to support it would hit the scene.

[alanh]

8656 & Imagination Tech SGX535 = win.

[Specter]

(06-08-2010 07:18 PM)dh2005 Wrote:  I hate to pour cold water on anyone's enthusiasm, but the development time necessary to get any new Sigma processor up to a workable standard of functionality is months-to-years. Look at the 8643 in the 200 series; Syabas and Sigma have been working together on it for nine months, and it still needs a lot of work.

Frankly, I'm going nowhere near another Sigma chip until the one I'm using right now works properly. And I'd encourage Syabas to do the same.

Agreed!

I do need another NMT but i refuse to get another thats fresh off the line. Im not in the mood to wait the time it takes to conceive and born a child to get a stable media player. For all that ill take a last gen model thats more mature with most of the kinks worked out.

[accident]

I'd prefer the arm+mali400 combo or even better would be the armada 510/610 (oh and these cost less+faster)=cheaper, better, faster

[tux99]

(06-08-2010 07:18 PM)dh2005 Wrote:  Frankly, I'm going nowhere near another Sigma chip until the one I'm using right now works properly. And I'd encourage Syabas to do the same.

Well said!

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(06-08-2010 07:27 PM)dh2005 Wrote:  Let me clear about this - I love what the Sigma 8643 is capable of doing; I just wish the f**king firmware would let me access it.

Nobody doubts that Sigma make great chips. Likewise, nobody doubts that they're bloody useless at supporting them... they're the market-leader, so hey, they can get away with it. I only wish someone with a product of comparable quality and the will to support it would hit the scene.

A chip is only as good as the SDK and libraries that come with it, so I am doubting Sigma since the physical chip is only half the package. Unless they got BOTH right they are NOT making great chips.

Right now I hope we get the new firmware with the new Sigma libs on the C-200/A-200 soon (and I bloody hope the new Sigma libs are really mature!).

[chris57]

I like the idea of having a better output quality, through a decent scaler chip, along with a second chip.

How the workload could be split between the two chips and whether it would be better to have Broadcom for BD playback than Sigma or vice versa i'm unsure.

If Sigma chips can be avoided then they should given their lack of backup support. The 200 series is coming along quicker than the 100 series but the fact that we have to wait months for fixes from Sigma is unacceptable and undefendable.

[dh2005]

(06-08-2010 11:18 PM)tux99 Wrote:  A chip is only as good as the SDK and libraries that come with it, so I am doubting Sigma since the physical chip is only half the package. Unless they got BOTH right they are NOT making great chips.

Fair point. But you see what I mean... what frustrates the crap out of me is that the 8643 should be completely killer, but it's crippled by substandard firmware development.

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(06-09-2010 01:09 AM)chris57 Wrote:  If Sigma chips can be avoided then they should given their lack of backup support. The 200 series is coming along quicker than the 100 series but the fact that we have to wait months for fixes from Sigma is unacceptable and undefendable.

Hear hear...

[Trollslayer]

(06-09-2010 01:09 AM)chris57 Wrote:  How the workload could be split between the two chips and whether it would be better to have Broadcom for BD playback than Sigma or vice versa i'm unsure.

A little FYI, The Broadcom chips in Blu-ray players could do everything needed plus in a review Broadcom were in three of the top five players.
Hopefully for the next generation Sysbas will have a big enough market share for Broadcom to be a viable choice. Unfortunately Broadcom are a much large company and naturally aim at high turnover customers but are working to extend their range.