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Please restore my faith
07-23-2010, 02:18 PM
Post: #31
RE: Please restore my faith
To add to the information, you should make sure you either use internal HDD, directly connected external USB HDDs, or - if you use networked devices - DON'T use wireless! Playing back 1080p over wireless connections simply isn't feasible.

Personally, I only use 720p (less disc space needed, and you can't tell the difference on a 32" TV anyway), and I convert my BDs to 720p (keeping the HD audio and PGS subtitles now). I am currently experimenting with the best way to get subtitles in my 720p movies - at the moment I use lo-res DVD subtitles converted using BDsup2sub, but I'm going to experiement with 720p PGS and 720p VOBSUB in the coming weeks (the latter when they start supporting it).

The PCH ?-200 series has a few issues with GigaBit networks, but since you won't have any 1080p movies that can max out even 100 Mbit connections, that shouldn't be a problem for movie playback. I use 100 Mbit and have no problems whatsoever streaming my (few) 1080p movies.

VC-1 video in .MKV has a few problems at the moment, but H.264 (MPEG-4/AVC) has no problems whatsoever.

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07-23-2010, 02:28 PM (This post was last modified: 07-23-2010 02:29 PM by Fudgemunk.)
Post: #32
RE: Please restore my faith
Thanks again HeartWare, it's really appreciated, you've answered my question comprehensively.
I don't plan to use wireless, just for my squeezebox which is sufficient for music I find.
Just to be clear on something, the a-200 has space for an internal hard drive? And if so, is there a list of compatible hard drives? I understand that virtually any hd would work, but I mean a list of ones that users have tried and confirmed to work ok?
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07-23-2010, 02:37 PM
Post: #33
RE: Please restore my faith
http://www.networkedmediatank.com/wiki/i...lity_Lists

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Vivitek H1080FD || 110" DIY BOC screen || Onkyo HT-S6100 || Logitech Harmony 1100 || (2) Netgear GS-605
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07-23-2010, 02:40 PM
Post: #34
RE: Please restore my faith
Excellent, thank you.
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07-23-2010, 03:01 PM (This post was last modified: 07-23-2010 03:04 PM by krazypoloc.)
Post: #35
RE: Please restore my faith
I would say 85%-90% of my 800+ movie collection is high bitrate 1080p. The rest is 720p. Of that about 70% are mkv's and the others are m2ts files that are full BD rips with HD audio. Of those 800+ files I have I have only had issues with 1 or maybe 2 of them. This is streaming over my network at either 10/100 or 10/100/1000 speeds. Every movie in my sig plays perfectly.

Also if you take a look at the link in my sig you can see the jukebox that I use for my NMT. This is exactly what I see on the screen of my NMT when I browse my library, this is another HUGE reason to chose an NMT device over the other media streamers.

I found this and while it is a little outdated it may be helpful.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1160835

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07-23-2010, 03:02 PM
Post: #36
RE: Please restore my faith
(07-23-2010 12:15 AM)halfelite Wrote:  no powerline adapters.

I tested 200mbits powerline adapters, it's ok with 720p movies, stutters with 1080p's

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07-23-2010, 03:05 PM
Post: #37
RE: Please restore my faith
Ok I'm decided, thanks krazypoloc Big Grin
Can I ask how you store all those movies, on a NAS?
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07-23-2010, 03:06 PM
Post: #38
RE: Please restore my faith
I store all mine on a WHS, over a gigabit lan.

Mostly SD dvd's, but some 720p and some 180p files. All play great.

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07-23-2010, 03:24 PM
Post: #39
RE: Please restore my faith
(07-23-2010 03:05 PM)Fudgemunk Wrote:  Ok I'm decided, thanks krazypoloc Big Grin
Can I ask how you store all those movies, on a NAS?

I have a custom built file server that has 12TB of storage.

accident has been in the process of putting together some guides for putting together this sort of thing. I'm sure if you ask him nicely he will help you. Smile

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07-23-2010, 03:26 PM (This post was last modified: 07-23-2010 03:31 PM by accident.)
Post: #40
RE: Please restore my faith
readynas ultra-6, preorders on amazon.. new model 1/2 the price of the old one.. much faster and comes with a nice collection of upnp software and orb for remote viewing of your video/music including from your phone Smile or a whs.. the choices are rather large and the whole buy it or built it.. theres an overview guide in the networking forum that does a very high level comparison of some common methods and expresses my opinions for what I personally look for.
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07-23-2010, 03:56 PM
Post: #41
RE: Please restore my faith
Yeah I have been looking at NAS, particularly the QNAPs but when you add in the disks, the price starts to become quite large Tongue
I would want a minimum 4 bay because I'm sure I would run out of space in no time.
My mate has a ReadyNas Duo, you know the entry level one, and to be honest, it's crap, it's just not powerful enough if you ask me, he runs squeezecenter on it and it takes hours to scan his music collection, pointless. I know I would be disappointed with it. But like I say, that's the entry level one.
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07-23-2010, 05:54 PM (This post was last modified: 07-23-2010 06:00 PM by PeterB.)
Post: #42
RE: Please restore my faith
Just my tuppence ... I started off with a drive installed in my C-200, but found it to be quite restricting. I have now removed the drive and installed it in my file server. Like several others here, I have opted for unRAID ... the software seems to be ideal for media serving, and you can build the hardware to match your personal budget and requirements.

I originally used a QNAP NAS to host Slimserver but soon realised that it just wasn't up to the job. I then moved Slimserver to a small ubuntu box. As of this week, I am now running Squeezeboxserver on the unRAID machine.

I don't know about high bandwidth, but I have a 15GB rip of Avatar 1920x1080p DTS (MA) (although I don't have any HD audio equipment - the C-200 seems to be happy to convert this to standard DTS to pass it over the S/PDIF interface), in an mkv, which plays perfectly over the wired network connection.

So, in brief - the C-200 (and A-200?) handles HD quality perfectly well, and don't rule out serving your media over the network, it's much more flexible than using an internal drive.

C-200 - USB local storage, HDMI to Sony Bravia KLV-46X450A, S/PDIF to Sony DAV-F500
A-200 - USB local storage, HDMI to Sony Bravia KLV-32W400A
All media stored on an unRAID server.
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07-23-2010, 06:05 PM
Post: #43
RE: Please restore my faith
(07-23-2010 05:54 PM)PeterB Wrote:  Just my tuppence ... I started off with a drive installed in my C-200, but found it to be quite restricting. I have now removed the drive and installed it in my file server. Like several others here, I have opted for unRAID ... the software seems to be ideal for media serving, and you can build the hardware to match your personal budget and requirements.

I originally used a QNAP NAS to host Slimserver but soon realised that it just wasn't up to the job. I then moved Slimserver to a small ubuntu box. As of this week, I am now running Squeezeboxserver on the unRAID machine.

I don't know about high bandwidth, but I have a 15GB rip of Avatar 1920x1080p DTS (MA) (although I don't have any HD audio equipment - the C-200 seems to be happy to convert this to standard DTS to pass it over the S/PDIF interface), in an mkv, which plays perfectly over the wired network connection.

So, in brief - the C-200 (and A-200?) handles HD quality perfectly well, and don't rule out serving your media over the network, it's much more flexible than using an internal drive.

Hey, thanks for the input. Could you elaborate on why you found an internal drive to be restrictive?
And also why the QNAP wasn't up to the job of running slimserver. Trying to learn as much as I can about this before I dive in head first.
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07-23-2010, 06:22 PM (This post was last modified: 07-23-2010 06:29 PM by nuke12.)
Post: #44
RE: Please restore my faith
Just because a device has a Gb network controller, does not mean the device can fill a Gb pipe.

This is one of the big differences between the small NAS's and a full blown file server. Most of the small NAS's can stream 1080 fine but the network speeds can't compare to a dual core file server. It really depends on the user and their needs. Some just want the faster speeds so it doesn't take so long to copy files and some use their file server for more then media content.

Check out Accident's thread. He's writing a book. Tongue
http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showth...?tid=42266

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07-23-2010, 06:35 PM
Post: #45
RE: Please restore my faith
I have 3 pch's and none now have internal hard drives. They all stream from the same network media server I built. The NMT's pretty much suck at streaming media to the other NMT's with high bitrate media. Pretty much a waste of time to use internal hard drives if you have more than one PCH. If you can afford more than one PCH, i.e. you have more than one HD display device, then networked storage of your media is the way to go.

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