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Cheap DTS Receiver/Decoder
07-23-2008, 10:52 PM
Post: #46
 
Um, what does this actually do, in non-tech terms? It's a decoder?

I dont understand why you have an AVR that goes to an AMP and then to the speakers? [I am kinda new to audio scene ].

I am using my cheap XV-R363 directly connected to the speakers. After all, it's an AMP too isn't it? Also, it almost costs as much as 'mocha'.

Hypothetically speaking, why would I replace this with my 363?

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07-24-2008, 03:05 AM
Post: #47
 
plutonick Wrote:Um, what does this actually do, in non-tech terms? It's a decoder?

yes, that's pretty much it. in goes digital, out goes analog at line-level (preamp level).

Quote:I dont understand why you have an AVR that goes to an AMP and then to the speakers? [I am kinda new to audio scene ].

I'm trying to REMOVE my avr and go more 'purist' or minimalist.

avr's are ok - they sound pretty good today. but they don't tend to use 'better' components inside (caps, chips, etc). for that extra percent, you have to go outside the avr route (even the $1000 ones are still using cheap parts; but they'll never admit to it!)


Quote:I am using my cheap XV-R363 directly connected to the speakers. After all, it's an AMP too isn't it? Also, it almost costs as much as 'mocha'.

Hypothetically speaking, why would I replace this with my 363?

what I'm trying to do is to have an EXCELLENT dac and not just an 'ok' one. the dacs that come in avr's are good but not high end. they also have a LOT of 'processing' going on inside avr's. I don't like that, I don't know what stuff they are doing and there's no way to easily cut it out.

this mocha box will do volume control, spdif decoding to analog and that's mostly it. it acts as a preamp (it has 2 analog inputs if you need them) and so this thing can directly drive an amp. here's the amp I am using:

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its quite a decent (semi high end) amp. it was affordable ($200 for 2 channels at over 200w/ch into 4ohms) and its a huge step up from ANY avr final amp section. any of them, even the $1000 ones.

the catch is that its only 2 ch and so if I want 5.1, I'll need 3 of those amps in a rack Wink I don't plan to do that but other people have.

so what I'm saying is that I can spend:

- $160 for mocha
- $200 for the amp

and for $360 (still less than the typical avr) I have pretty much all I'll need for some semi high-end sound.


hope that explains it a bit.

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07-24-2008, 04:46 AM
Post: #48
 
I just want to use the optical passthrough that my TV has so I can use these amps I bought on Amazon to power my nice tower speakers

This should allow that nicely
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07-24-2008, 05:23 AM
Post: #49
 
Nice starter amp (Behringer REFERENCE AMPLIFIER A500) and 3 would make one hell of a system.

And my 2c worth is go for a separate system an AV receiver + some speakers and a sub they will kick ass compared to a ready made plastic box gutless HT package

Second hand audio shops are the place to start don't be fooled by the shrunk wrapped logitech pc speaker solutions
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07-24-2008, 08:13 AM
Post: #50
 
Hi all , anybody knows where to buy cheaper the logitech z-5500 speaker systhem ?
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08-06-2008, 12:26 AM (This post was last modified: 08-06-2008 06:34 PM by aangeboden.)
Post: #51
RE: Cheap DTS Receiver/Decoder
Anyone connected the PCH to this Trust SP-6250 speakersystem ?

http://www.theredhotgroup.com/product_in...1684cd76b8

I can buy this in the local store for only 28 euros. Has it really a build in a DTS decoder?
It doesn't have a HDMI input but a RCA cable input. Does this mean it could have some delays with the audio? If there are delays, is there a solution? How's the quality? Any chance to pull out the DTS audiodecoder hardware and plug it into the PCH?

Thanks for the feedback!

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Have just received response from Trust manufacturer. Incorrect information. NO DTS decoder inside.
So do not purchase this one to connect the PCH A-100.

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08-06-2008, 09:50 PM
Post: #52
RE: Cheap DTS Receiver/Decoder
This might be what i´ve been searching for. I cant use more than a 2.1 output at the moment since i have only analogue connectors on my creative megaworks 550.

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So with the ebay decoder I could finally use all my speakers if i get this right ?
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08-06-2008, 10:20 PM
Post: #53
RE: Cheap DTS Receiver/Decoder
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Digital-Audio-Deco....m14.l1318

what about this for a decoder looks ok
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08-07-2008, 06:53 AM
Post: #54
RE: Cheap DTS Receiver/Decoder
It does look as if it decodes DTS but the speakers outputs are for PC type speakers, ideally I just want 2 channel RCA output t connect to my TV for audio. Looks fine for those that are going to use 'multimedia speakers'.

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08-07-2008, 01:47 PM
Post: #55
RE: Cheap DTS Receiver/Decoder
Nice find. Even better for me since I have "stere plugs" on my system. I wonder if any of them can "upmix" 2ch audio like music to be played in all speakers ?
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08-07-2008, 08:03 PM
Post: #56
RE: Cheap DTS Receiver/Decoder
(08-06-2008 10:20 PM)scott-ayling Wrote:  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Digital-Audio-Deco....m14.l1318

what about this for a decoder looks ok

The shipping costs are almost the same as the item. Mmmmm...UndecidedSad
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08-10-2008, 08:21 AM
Post: #57
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(07-24-2008 05:23 AM)zombiefood Wrote:  And my 2c worth is go for a separate system an AV receiver + some speakers and a sub they will kick ass compared to a ready made plastic box gutless HT package
Yes they will especially if you are prepared to do the research and hunt around finding the separate components, but not everyone is an audiophile (Linuxworks Smile) and not all HT systems are gutless. But then I have a HT system so I would say that Wink Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water. A good HT system is still still way better than any PC system. The trick is to find a good HT system.

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08-10-2008, 02:20 PM
Post: #58
RE: Cheap DTS Receiver/Decoder
With regard to the Logitec X-5500, I was reduced to using mine (normally on my computer) when my NAD amp went in for repairs.

It is OK ... barely.The speakers were inadequate to say the least, and the amp worked, just. I could not wait-to get my trusty NAD back.
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08-11-2008, 01:16 AM (This post was last modified: 08-11-2008 06:38 AM by chris57.)
Post: #59
RE: Cheap DTS Receiver/Decoder
Geez, DTS has been around for a decade now. Go into any pawn/hock shop and buy an old amp that supports DTS. You can pick up a decent one (Yamaha, Sony, Marantz) for $30 - $50, job done. You don't need a reference amplifier or anything fancy like linuxworks. And most of these older receivers will have a bypass control that removes any processing from the signal path if you want. just plug the digital out from the PCH to the digital in of the receiver, switch it to that input channel and attach your spkrs, job done.

The improvement in sound quality when you buy a high-end amp system is not really that big for the average user, and the speakers NOT the amp make the most difference anyway.

BTW Linuxworks is NOT an audiophile LOL. If Linuxworks was really keen on top quality he would have bought an amp with HDMI support so he could use the uncompressed HD audio types. He can't use them with his new fancy reference amp because it is a studio amp made for a recording studio. You messed up Linuxworks, someone led you down the garden path dude. That thing was a waste of money unless you're planning on setting up a recording studio. Sorry.

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08-11-2008, 08:29 AM (This post was last modified: 08-11-2008 08:39 AM by cdx47.)
Post: #60
RE: Cheap DTS Receiver/Decoder
(08-11-2008 01:16 AM)cmotd Wrote:  The improvement in sound quality when you buy a high-end amp system is not really that big for the average user, and the speakers NOT the amp make the most difference anyway.
True
(08-11-2008 01:16 AM)cmotd Wrote:  BTW Linuxworks is NOT an audiophile LOL. If Linuxworks was really keen on top quality he would have bought an amp with HDMI support so he could use the uncompressed HD audio types.
Old school (separate Pre and power amps) vs New skool (HDMI and DTS-HD MA)
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P.S. I would definitely be interested in listening to a discussion between you guys. I am old enough do remember the Old school way but with money no object I would now be new skool.

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