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1080p playback.
10-19-2008, 12:35 PM
Post: #1
1080p playback.
so far i've only got 2 1080p encodes to successfully playback on my A-110 via smb from my Mac. why are most 1080p encodes extremely pixelated? here's some info i got from mediainfo on a encode i want to play. anyone got any ideas?


General
Complete name : Interview.with.the.Vampire.1994.1080p.BluRay.x264-DON.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 8.84 GiB
Duration : 2h 2mn
Overall bit rate : 10.3 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-09-30 22:09:32
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.2.0 ('Turn It On Again') built on Mar 4 2008 12:58:26
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 6 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@5.0
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 2mn
Bit rate : 9 072 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 9 493 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.191
Writing library : x264 core 64 r994M b35a044
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=0.8:0.0 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=8,6 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=5 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=9493 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.60
Language : English

Audio #1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 2mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Language : English

Audio #2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format profile : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 2mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Title : commentary
Language : English

Text #1
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : English

Text #2
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : French

Text #3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : Spanish

Text #4
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : German

Text #5
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : Finnish

Text #6
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : Swedish

Chapters
Language : English
1 : 00:00:00.000 1
2 : 00:03:01.473 2
3 : 00:05:51.101 3
4 : 00:09:30.487 4
5 : 00:11:23.892 5
6 : 00:16:17.226 6
7 : 00:24:22.002 7
8 : 00:30:51.767 8
9 : 00:36:15.340 9
10 : 00:40:51.324 10
11 : 00:50:17.389 11
12 : 00:56:40.772 12
13 : 01:08:55.381 13
14 : 01:10:29.100 14
15 : 01:11:31.704 15
16 : 01:14:11.280 16
17 : 01:19:44.571 17
18 : 01:23:56.615 18
19 : 01:24:32.484 19
20 : 01:25:51.897 20
21 : 01:30:09.279 21
22 : 01:34:13.690 22
23 : 01:36:23.945 23
24 : 01:40:33.694 24
25 : 01:43:35.000 25
26 : 01:46:00.396 26
27 : 01:47:05.836 27
28 : 01:52:49.137 28
29 : 01:54:47.089 29
30 : 02:02:33.096 30
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10-19-2008, 12:49 PM (This post was last modified: 10-19-2008 12:50 PM by dc11ab.)
Post: #2
RE: 1080p playback.
Encoded out of spec:
Quote:Format profile : High@L5.0
Format settings, ReFrames : 6 frames
Should be max 3 reference frames when using that profile. Note that Blueray and HDDVD are not even on High@L5.0. In short: find another source. You migth get lucky with a remux, but it's not a warranted solution.

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10-19-2008, 12:55 PM
Post: #3
RE: 1080p playback.
why doesn't the A-110 support "High@L5.0"? will it support "High@L5.0" in the future? only asking because i'm pretty sure 90% of the 1080p encodes i want to download have "High@L5.0". kinda defeats the purpose of buying it..
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10-19-2008, 01:27 PM
Post: #4
RE: 1080p playback.
Because the industry standards for any normal consumer HD content, weather this being bluray, hd-dvd, hdtv, hd-cameras, whatever is only up to Profile High@L4.1

Anything above just comes from amateurs doing their own reencodes without knowing what they are doing. There is absolutely no reason to reencode to a higher profile than the original.

Crappy encodes are the risk you take when downloading illegal rips from the internet.
It does not come with a quality or compliancy warranty.

The PCH use a hardware decoder which have been designed to play media that complys to industry standards, just like any other HD player - not to play crappy encodes.

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10-19-2008, 01:28 PM (This post was last modified: 10-19-2008 01:29 PM by cdx47.)
Post: #5
RE: 1080p playback.
Hi Spawn. I spent too long writing my reply and you beat me to it Smile

(10-19-2008 12:55 PM)tony187 Wrote:  why doesn't the A-110 support "High@L5.0"? will it support "High@L5.0" in the future?

The current Blu Ray spec is for High@L4.0. Anything higher than that is simply not playable by any proper player. PCs can play them because they are general purpose calculation engines with CPU/GPU power to burn. Hardware players (DVD, Blu Ray and the Popcorn NMT etc) can only play what they have been built for.

Quote:...only asking because i'm pretty sure 90% of the 1080p encodes i want to download have "High@L5.0". kinda defeats the purpose of buying it..

The majority of 1080p encodes are NOT High@L5.0. I have almost 2 Terabytes of files so I think I can say this with "some" confidence.
The bottom line is that these 1080p encodes have been encoded incorrectly

Having said that you may find the occasion 1080p L5.0 encode which the Popcorn will still play. I think the Matrix Reloaded is one of the more popular ones like this although it suffers from Audio dropouts. 720p L5.0 encodes on the whole seem to work!

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10-19-2008, 01:47 PM
Post: #6
RE: 1080p playback.
i think the majority from where i get mine at are high@L5. i don't download scene encodes.. but i guess i'll just stick with 720p from now on. thanks for the info.
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10-19-2008, 01:51 PM
Post: #7
RE: 1080p playback.
(10-19-2008 01:47 PM)tony187 Wrote:  i think the majority from where i get mine at are high@L5. i don't download scene encodes.. but i guess i'll just stick with 720p from now on. thanks for the info.
If you have a 1080p TV/Projector then maybe you should re-encode some of the 1080p files you have to L4.1. Its very CPU intensive and takes a lot of time but could be worth it. Otherwise stick to the 720p and search/wait for sensible 1080p encodes of the files.

Enjoy Smile

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10-19-2008, 02:01 PM
Post: #8
RE: 1080p playback.
do you know of a way to do this on a Mac?
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10-20-2008, 06:46 AM
Post: #9
RE: 1080p playback.
Handbrake will do it IIRC.

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10-23-2008, 10:40 AM
Post: #10
RE: 1080p playback.
handbrake won't open mkv's for me..
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10-24-2008, 01:05 PM (This post was last modified: 10-24-2008 01:07 PM by cheaper_popcorn.)
Post: #11
RE: 1080p playback.
Not sure if mkvtoolnix is available for Mac?

If it is, I think it should be possible to use mkvmergeGUI which is part of mkvtoolnix to demux the mkv, splitting it into the separate video, audio and subtitle tracks (if any). Then load the raw video track in handbrake.

These links might be helpful, not sure if everything will work on your configuration though, I am not a Mac user myself.

http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/m...07739.html
http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtool...loads.html

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